A few days ago
Anonymous

Is This A Common Practice In Most Universities?

I have only been to two universities. The first one i was at was a top tier school but i had to move to a forth tier school for finical reasons. Anyway here is something very odd and seemingly wrong, that i noticed.

Every single class, for the final grades, requires an 85% for an A. Also, the curving of tests is very extreme. In my environmental bio class, on the first test, i got 28/30 questions right. The average score was 14/30. So what do they do? Well they just add 24 percentage points to everyone’s scores, so now a 14/30 is a 70% and my 93% is somewhere around a 117%. Anyone who got a low C on the test now has an A. My bio class. The last test i got a 90% on. Now i have a 96% on the test. The average score was a 53%, now it’s a 70% because the professor just added points to everyones tests to bump the average up.

Seems wrong to me, since i am actually trying hard and people who don’t show up to class, don’t study, still pass or get very high grades. Is this common in college?

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A few days ago
wisdomdude

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I am not sure how common this is, but some of us (faculty) call it grade inflation. Those of us who don’t grade on a curve use a standard scale, 90-100% = A, 80-89% = B, etc.

Some issues and challenges arise from standard scales:

1) some practitioners apply the “normal” curve to check the distribution of grades in the class and then “adjust” scoring scales to produce a normal distribution of test scores for any given test. This is one version of “curving” the test scores. To me, this is like running a business and telling people you will be paid $10/hr for a 40 hr work week. At the end of the week, some folks only worked 20 hrs, or 30 hrs…and instead of getting paid $200 or $300, they get the same pay as the ones who worked the full 40 hrs…in other words everyone still gets paid $400 for the week regardless of how many hours they worked. In you case, everyone got the same bonus. So it seems that the ploy was to through a carrot your way so your score is over 100% so you won’t complain.

2) I stand by the standard scale. It’s like announcing what the pay scale is to the workers, say $10/hr. At the end of the week, if they worked 40 hours, they get paid $400. Those who worked only 20 hours get paid $200, and 30 hour workers got $300. It doesn’t matter to me if the distribution of grades fits a “normal” curve or not. The normal curve is an abstract theoretical concept. In reality, some classes have more than the average share of good students, and those classes tend to have more A’s than another class. The proportion of grades is not important to me. It is important that the “pay” (grades) are proportional to the quality of the work.

Many students like being graded on a curve. But they don’t realize what that really means. If you help another student study for an exam, and that extra help gets that person 1 more point on the test, their grade goes up and might beat you out. And the next time, what is the incentive for you to help someone study? Grading on a curve can promote situations of cut throat competition (on one end of the scale) and a protest boycott (as the other extreme). For grade sensitive instructors, seeing a whole class do poorly on an exam can trigger a guilt reaction and thus to quell student protest, curve the grades by lowering the thresholds for the grading scale, or adding points to everyone’s “raw” score. Those instructors can be manipulated by en mass student protest or inaction.

On the other hand, since education has become big business, and commercial management practices are often used on campus, the most common productivity measures on campus are the number of successful course completions, number of certificates and degrees awarded, and number of student transferring or graduating. High success might mean pay raises for faculty. Low success rates could mean probationary status and ultimately dismissal for getting poor productivity results.

Common practice? Hard for me to say. But talk to any group of students when registration begins, and they can tell you who is the “hard” or “easy” instructors on any campus of the world.

It may be of little comfort to you, but the quality of your education rests with you….not the college, professors, books, or grades. Focus on improving your understanding and it will all come out in the wash….those with the easy grades (high marks) generally have low understanding and ability. I know it is hard to take with GPAs seem to rule the day on applications, etc.

But I have been there….was only an average student…but in my career, my lower degree in contrast to my peers did not prevent me from reaching higher levels of recognition and performance than colleagues with higher degrees from superior rated universities both in the US and abroad.

Hope this helps shed some light.

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A few days ago
person
Generally in my classes you would have to get at least a 90% to get an A (or sometimes a 94% if they use a +/- system). Although I’m pretty sure I’ve had one class where it was lower. I’ve had a lot of teachers who curve tests in a way that increases the grade for all, but not usually that extreme. A lot of them.. if that 28/30 was the high score would bump it to 30/30 and then bump everyone’s grade up by two points.
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A few days ago
DJ76
Sounds like a very bad case of grade inflation and/or low standards (85% for an A when that would be a B in other places)! What you describe isn’t a normal bell curve where you have the same number of As as Fs, etc. They’ve just added points to everyone’s score to make the grades higher.

I teach at a university, and while we have some professors who are easier than others and seem to hand out As like candy, most of us in the department expect our students to EARN their As by attending class, studying for tests, turning in quality papers on time, etc.

Good for you for thinking it’s wrong!

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A few days ago
iSpeakTheTruth
It’s grade inflation and relatively common. Some schools promote grade inflation because it’s ultimately a business decision — do you really think a student is going to continue paying tuition to stay in school if they’re averaging a D or a B? Take a guess. Even not for profit schools are essentially all in a competitive game to gather as many students as they can so they can grow.
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A few days ago
Nikolas M
What is happening in your classes is not completely fair. It seems that after a certain point, your efforts are barely rewarded–like a law of diminishing returns. Since most students throw fits and find reasons to complain to the chair if they don’t get at least B’s in their classes, professors have to be careful about giving too many low grades. Maybe you could channel the “extra” work that you seem to be putting in to some of your classes into something else that you find desirable.
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A few days ago
Random Nickname
In my experience this is normal.

I’m taking engineering classes and the school is ABET accredited which means it is legit. Our school is ranked pretty high as far as engineering schools go too.

There are flaws but the overall idea is that the teacher knows what the student’s average knowledge level is. Therefore they tailor tests to have a bell curve where a 50% is average. There are variations on this concept but it is all the same in the end

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4 years ago
hickey
No it isn’t average train. And in truth, Bill Ayers was once my grad tuition adviser on the University of Illinois at Chicago in 1993-ninety five. He is aware of his academic s*it, as he constantly has, however makes no apologies for his radical beyond. He’s nonetheless just a little too radical for my style, however I recognize his mind and his chutzpah.
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A few days ago
basharat k
May be in many cases this may be true…..but u should not see wat is done with others……

Let them do what they do..the cats will mew the dogs will bark.. after all every dog has his own day (shakespheare)….

So make your interest in your subjects…. never lose hope… if u study..then your knowledge and intelligence will never be lost……

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