Most people will not disagree with the fact that evolution has happened in most species. There is evidence to show this. The big disagreement that the church has is that man was not created but evolved from a lesser form. This cannot be proved any more than the existence of God can be proved, yet evolutionists will argue to their death, that there is unfallible evidence, which is simply not the case.

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In order to have Randomism you have to explain where all the Mass of the Universe comes from and science sweeps that under the rug.

Therefore you can sweep God under the rug as well.

Intellegent Design is an alternative concept and the most likely one, because it is easier to do.

Apples on a tree, let’s not get into how THEY GOT THERE, but some are sour, some are dry, some are over ripe, some have a worm in them. Each one tastes a little different than another. Sometimes they are wonderful. Sometimes you spit it out and look for a better one.

The Intellegently Designed jar of Motts Applesauce always tastes the same because some intellgent entity (and we don’t know who, exactly, that is) designed it to be that way.

You can go to Radio Shack and buy up all their electronic parts and put them into a box and shake them up for centuries and see what happens

Or you can intellegently design a device and build it, assemble it with willful intent.

Which way do you think is faster, better and more reliable.

Intellegent Design as a concept is far superior to the Cosmic Casino that threw a Lucky 7

The Randomist Big Bang view. Mass (don’t ask where it came from, we have no answers to that question) contracted and natural fusion occured.

The Intellegent Design Big Bang view. Someone had an idea, got a group of people together, refined some U-235 and Pultonium, decided implosion (the big crunch) was the best way to make it work, spent ages (eons, years, months or six days) putting it together and and then pushed a button out in the New Mexico desert and lo and behold there was LIGHT!

Now, what you have to decide is what happens with all the burnt out star cores in 10 trillion years that are spread out over 20 or 30 trillion light years of space. How do they ALL get back together and form a singularity on their own.

You know how much space that is. You know how many dead rocks you will have.

How do they all manage to come back together to form a natural big crunch singularity and start the whole process again.

Or does the process end with the inert mass.

If you teach Randomism, you are teaching students there is no need for an inventor and all a Scientist is supposed to do is expalin thing, not invent things. For nature does that RANDOMLY to do otherwise is a violation of the natural order of the universe.

How do you turn students into Intellegent Designers by telling them all there is, including apple trees, happened on it’s own and would have happened if there were not humans and animals around.

It’s a vaid theory but a self-defeating concept.

It puts MAN at the CENTER of the Universe as the Supreme Being.

MAN is GOD

So there’s your proof, by the way, about God.

MAN=GOD. Man is the intellegent Designer.

It takes a lot of audacity to think there is ABSOLITELY POSITIVELY no one greater than MAN.

So we have two views.

One an Intellegent Designer (don’t ask who, we don’t know postively) supplied all the Mass and made it all happen.

Two Randomly all the MASS of the univers (don’t ask where it came from, we don’t know positvely) formed a singualrity that generated fusion naturally and made it all happen.

If you look at the two views, both are subject to hot debate, laughs, giggled and lots of questions that can’t be answered.

By the way evolution happens in both processes.

Further God is not Harry Potter, he wave a magic wand and make it happen in a flash.

It took six days which means God has limitations or creation has limitations. It means you can’t bake a cake faster than it takes to bake a cake.

Something interesting to ponder. Creation on 1 second of day one. Earth and sun on 4th day (that’s 2/3 the way from creation), Large animals (you dinosaurs) on 5th day, smaller beasts on 6th day (before man) and Man at the end of 6th day.

Dr. Carl Sagan’s Cosmic Calender is 30 days long and Man came along in the First minute of the first Hour of the Last Day of the Month and WE ARE STILL IN THAT FIRST HOUR.

The Universe is about 14 billion years old and earth and sun are 4.5 billion years old (that’s 2/3 the way from creation).

The Big Bang theory was postulated by a CAtholic Priest and the Father of Genetics was Catholic Abbott. And the Palentologys (Dinosaur Scientist) who first postualted that some Dinosaurs might be warm blooded is also a Baptist Minster.

Oh, and Einstein said “God doesn’t play dice!”

He wasn’t a fan of the Randomists.

I think the problem people who want ID to be taught have is that they think evolution isn’t true, so it shouldn’t be taught as true. Even though it’s taught as a theory in schools, individual teachers can totally word things to fit their own personal beliefs when teaching it. While I agree that you can’t teach ID as fact in schools, I think that if the topic is brought up by the STUDENTS, it should be addressed. Let the students have an intelligent debate about the issue after they’ve learned about evolution in class. What is taught needs to be made relevant to students. What better way to do this than to let them make connections to their own beliefs about how the world works?

There is a great documentary that addresses the controversy of ID and evolution called A Flock of Dodos. Many supporters of ID have found what they believe is proof that supports the theory. What some educators are being faced with is pressure to teach the controversy, the arguments between ID and evolution, instead of evolution only. One reason I mention the film is because in it supporters of both sides are treated with respect.

Personally, I believe in the evolution theory. I want my children to be raised with the values I have. So you cannot really blame people who believe in ID to want the same for their children.

it will never be taught in public schools.

seperation of church and state. Think about your past science teachers. which of those do you want responsible for helping you with your faith? Which faith are we talking about? ….because if I know my former science teachers, the creator from ID will be space aliens.

it is bad faith as well as (you are correct) not a scientific theory.

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