A few days ago
Snowflake

Should Principals/Teachers be allowed to use corporal punishment in schools?

I’ve worked in and around the School system for many years. What bothers me is the fact that students are allowed to do pretty much whatever they want these days. There seems to be NO discipline what so ever. Principals and Teachers are NOT allowed to use what we called the “dreaded paddle”(that looked like a boat paddle!) to punish children these days when they misbehave. I’ve seen students, cuss, kick, spit, be sooo disrespectful to the staff and nothing can be done about it. Sure, you can expel, but you damn sure can’t send them to the Principals office for a “good ole butt whoopin” anymore. I’m from the “old school” and back when I was in school, if you misbehaved, you had to stand up in front of the class, bend over while your teacher gave you a couple of HARD licks on your bottom, THEN you took the chance of going to the Principals office for MORE. There were consequences for bad behavior back then.

Do you agree/disagree that we need C/P back in the system?

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A few days ago
Just Me

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I don’t think principals and teachers should be able to hit children. What children need is discipline from their own parents. It should be started at an early age and should continue until the child is 18. I often see parents with their children and it is easy to tell that the children are the ones in charge. They whine and throw a fit until the parent gives in. I never let my children get away with that.

What I think should happen in a situation like this is that the parent should be called into the school each time their child misbehaves in an outrageous manner. Even if it means calling them into the school everyday. After a while, the parent is going to get the message that they are the ones who need to be responsible for the discipline of their children.

As for expelling a child from the school, I think that is just giving in to what they want. Allowing a child to drop out just reinforces the fact that, with bad behavior, they can get whatever they want. These children almost always become a burden on society rather than productive members.

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A few days ago
Anonymous
My school system still uses corporal punishment. I personally choose to NOT use this as an option for discipline. I teach 16-18 year olds and I feel that corporal punishment only causes embarrassment and resentment towards me, not a change in behavior.

I have seen corporal punishment used on younger students by other teachers or the discipline principal and I have seen a marked change in behavior. I have never seen a positive change in older students.

Not to mention my older students see the paddlings in a different way… almost as if it is a badge of honor. I had three male students ask me to paddle them as a graduation gift this year. I keep telling myself it is because they know that I don’t paddle students because the other reasons are disturbing.

I agree that many students are not well behaved and are downright rude in many cases but I don’t see corporal punishment being the answer.

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A few days ago
Angel
I’ve worked in schools for years too and even when I’ve tried to break up a fight between 2 students, one or both of them would say that I hit them, when in fact I was pulling them apart. So, I know what it means for the teacher to be sent to the principal’s office nowadays, instead of the students.

Students are quick to say that teachers/principals used corporal punishment since they know the law is against it. So, I think that only in rare circumstances should it be allowed for disciplining purposes, but then we get into what type of corporal punishment should we use. You only mention one form, the paddle on the “butt”, but others might be used also and then what? “Children” of all ages won’t all respond favorably to your form of punishment. (Maybe a younger one would, however, older ones might just quit school because of it and that defeats the purpose.)

I can go on and on about this topic due to the fact that I’ve experienced something like it while I’ve been a teacher in Special Education, where students of all ages fought each other and disrespected the staff frequently. Not much was done about it and when they were suspended for a day or 2, that was viewed as a reward by us and them.

I believe the best resolution to this problem is to have them go through in-school detention for at least a week with a written or/and physical work assignment as the punishment. Then have both of their parents come up to the principal’s office to meet with the prin., the tchr. and them, the youngster. Witihin that conference decide what form of punishment will be carried out by the parents. I bet you that one or both of them will most likely use “corporal punishment” on their child, unless they too are worried about being found out about and reported to what used to be called the Bureau of Child Welfare (BCW). Now I think its initials are C.W.A. or C.S.A.

I really couldn’t committ myself to a definite agreement or disagreement to implementing corporal punishment in all instances with all youth. If I was to give my opinion, I’d say not to bring it back. Why? Because we are in the 21st Century and there has to be a better way to resolve this serious problem among students, teachers, principals and lest we forget their parents too. Sometimes just by taking away their privileges such as use of the computer or their allowance that will get more of a “rise out of them” than “hitting or beating them”. (And that’s not against any law and no law will have to be changed to do this.)

I hope that this long answer has helped you in some good ways.

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A few days ago
David in Madison
You have quite the history! I’m 60, and I didn’t experience that when I was in school. We weren’t angels either! Corporal punishment? No! It has been my experience that physical punishment will not detour your problem students. If anyone needed the corporal punishment, it is usually the parents of these students. The children who ARE respectful and well behaved in school are those whose parents are present, are involved and who take the time to involve themselves in their child’s school. Where parents are absent or not involved at all, the children respond with a similar lack of interest and respect for those adults who do care.

The answer is economic. It’s a bigger answer than you can have here, and I certainly don’t know all the answers. People must be invested in their community to have respect for the parts of the community that make it run. Transient people, or people with no identity to the greater community generally are less economically able to participate in their children’s schooling. Many come from schools that have failed in larger cities.

To sum my answer, this is too big an issue to settle with an ill defined corporal punishment for bad behavior. The easy answer is to isolate these students and deal with them one on one to redirect their anger. Are you willing to pay the price for that? Personally, I think we must before this gets away from us as a nation.

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A few days ago
nrview
I so agree! Youth have no fear, so risk is glamorous.

Outside of the school though, parents must exercise authority at home, and often times that doesn’t happen, so behavior is exemplified at school (and other places). To be effective, there should be consequences in both places.

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A few days ago
the punk flamingo
You may be a teacher and see that it’s appropriate, but being a student, I don’t think it is. My friends and I like the policy,”don’t want to learn, don’t come.” but no one enforces it because teachers are supposed to encourage teens to stay in school. Encouraging teens, who don’t want to learn, for me, is a waste of time. I’d like to go to a school where if people don’t want to learn, and they’re not there, I’d be in a school of devoted people. I like that.
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A few days ago
Anonymous
It is the system and the people. Ask the people what they want so that they don’t sue the school for the slightest reason. Or the students complain every little single detail.
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A few days ago
Anonymous
i am in school and we do need it back because there are kids in the classroom who get others in trouble
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6 years ago
Anonymous
no because they will get beat up (at least by me)
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